Investigators released a still image from the video and a chilling audio of the man telling the two girls: Go down the hill.. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone. Fondled similarly to Libby. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. In September of 2020, messages started flowing on the web that were purportedly between the one who discovered the young ladies' bodies and his companion. This was posted within a Facebook group and the poster stated that it was fine to share with other groups. IMHO there is a main suspect, and I dont really care if everyone is pointing elsewhere. Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. The suspect has since moved back to North Carolina, and young women have begun to disappear from the trails there now.
He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! Kelsi German has been cleared. DELPHI, Ind. I dont know, FIELDS! Victim was an 8-12 year old female. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. Senior high school: First years unknown but graduated from Delphi High School in 1984-85. 3 No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. Oh, one more thing, Jim. Well have a conversation about it, hell say, you know, Its such a tragedy, and well say were sorry for the families and all of them. Robert, have you heard that Mr X had a deer blind on the Mears property? A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. Yes, they did record audio of themselves torturing those girls. Another user is talking about them also. A Murder at Penn State; The case of Dana Bailey. I see T. Neighboring state. Detectives continue to ask anyone who may have had contact with the screen name anthony_shots to contact law enforcement at abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comor 765-822-3535. Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else. At the very least he could have made misleading statements. A pair of binoculars. I think perhaps I saw the same things this guy did. I do not feel that this has anything to do with anything. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. His wife has taken to social media lately, pleading with people to stop harassing them and insisting he had nothing to do with this crime. I tend to suspect the latter of the two rather than the former. Authorities have released no connections between Chadwell and the Delphi murders. I saw the picture and while I could see the "face", I didn't see the rest of what people were claiming to see. is that creepy guy still following us?. All other POIs are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. IMO I believe "keep them away" was re: bystanders, but for what it's worth, it's debated. If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. It turns out that BGs shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. It is important to note that the validity of the text messages has not and cannot be corroborated at this time. Horrible. You claim he works at Indiana Packers then say his profession is woodworking. After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. movements and events. The one thing I cannot do is help him get away with his crimes, that is, be an accessory. The Delphi murders are a bizarre crime that has sparked nationwide attention. There is a difference between a scene that is staged and a scene that is posed, McCollum said. Garrett explained that an "unspent bullet is one that has the casing and the projectile still together." Education history: Primary and junior high unknown. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. I sorta did wonder where he was from 12 to 430ish. He has not been charged in the Delphi case. You dont have LE sources. Exactly how the girls died remains unknown to the public, and the state their bodies were discovered in also remains shrouded in mystery. You think Im stupid? A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. Deer kits have five knives, so we assume this one does too. Aside from the sketches released, authorities have indicated that the killer left behind physical evidence. After news of Allen's arrest broke on Friday, another disturbing photo of the possible perp emerged and began to circulate online. However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. The other person involved that is kin to this POI. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable. He uses all kinds of weird aliases. Why would we do that? The rumor is that his alibi is a Delphi police officer, Nate Allen, who committed suicide in December. I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. My background is nowhere near close to any qualifications for this. Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. As far as the serial killer theory goes, I believe there's a good chance BG is already a serial killer or someone who will one day be a serial killer. So Mr. X was more traumatized by this crime than anyone else, including the victims grandmother who was hurt more than anyone. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. He is happy to do so. Investigators tracked Logans activities on the day of the murders and determined he was not forthcoming. Director of Atlantas Cold Case Research Institute and Atlanta metro-area CSI, Sheryl McCollum, said she believes the killer likely posed the victims bodies, instead of staging, for a form of gratification. Bodies are also posed sometimes as a warning or message, like in revenge killings by the Mafia and various gangs, including narcos. See, Im not like how they say at all, am I? In the Delphi case, a signature could be very evident if both victims . But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. Hey I wanted to see what you think on Kirts now with the time thats passed, and lot more evidence published out there (mainly the Open Secrets YouTube channel interviews with Kirts & CM)..& Ed Bounds YouTube channel Crime PursuitBoth have incredible detail with Kirts himself seriously all but admitting to being the Delphi suspect. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but whats the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. Thank u. He later discussed the placement of Abby Williams' body at the crime scene, and he claimed that the victims were not sexually assaulted (none of this information has been publicly released yet). I dont know if they were part of the search parties. Delphi, Indiana, police have been notoriously tight-lipped about the killings of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams since the first news conference after the girls were found dead in February 2017. Summer months. No, he came up with the lost my keys gambit to explain why his car sat at the cemetery from 6:30 PM the day of the crime to 12:30 PM the next day when the girls bodies were found, a period of 18 full hours. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. Im curious if Mr X knew KAK or his father? There would have to be some sort of connection to Mr. X for me to suspect him, and I dont see any as of yet other than odd behavior in searching for the girls. Garrett said he hopes investigators went to all of the local gun stores to see their records of sales of .40-caliber-type weapons. I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? The conviction is expunged. An updated sketch for the suspect was released in April of 2019, and no further information about his appearance has been publicly shared. We think the girl knew she was pregnant. Police say they ruled Eldridge out as a suspect, and that he did not match an updated sketch of the suspect. I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. Do we know who this is and why he'd have photos? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? This year, Allen "again admitted" to police "that he was on the trail but denied knowing Victim 1 or Victim 2 and denied any involvement in their murders," according to the probable cause affidavit. But answer me this. There are 244 comments there. For the first time, the warrant reveals that they were killed by some type of weapon but the word is redacted in the document. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. Finally, after five long years, the Indiana State Police has charged a 50-year-old local man with the Delphi murders of two teenage best friends, Libby German and Abby Williams. Mr. X was employed by Indiana Packers around 2011 or 2012. A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. You do a great job! There was a helicopter/drone photoset going around in a FB group in the last few days (dont remember which group). Allen was taken into custody and booked into the Carroll County Jail in connection with the horrific crime. But they're about as good as they look here. And I seriously doubt that any of those POIs have access to all of those sensitive case documents or that any of them have a personality like that. According to Leaker, this is correct. I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. Suspect: Ok, you got me. LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. Over the summer, the details of a search warrant revealed that Libby and Abigail were found covered in blood, and that their killer appeared to have taken a souvenir of some sort from the murder site. And if not, where were they were found? You Go Girl! The accusation is that she knows something or knows way too much and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. We dont do that on here and never have. You had mentioned in one of your blogs not being sure what he did for a living. Its at his home on a shelf! She feels he is a current POI who is working OT to divert attention away from himself and mislead the public. No one knows if they talked to Ron about Mr. X. I doubt it because Ron keeps saying the killer is this Garrett Kirts, and its not him. Lists a factory as place of residence. Please email if you do not want to reply here. He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. He currently resides in prison for videotaping himself having sex with a 15 year old. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. We dont know why he asked permission to search Ron Logans land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. The only reason his wife would be coming to the site to retrieve his keys is if he lost his keys and she was coming to deliver a spare set. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. This had been done on other occasions, at least one other we know of in the 2000s. We can look into any case we want! They dont have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. We doubt if she did contact his wife. All of the speculation about their final moments is unconfirmed. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. Thanks. Posed, which I believe is what this scene is, that is for the offenders gratification.. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. DELPHI New chilling details have emerged involving the Delphi deaths investigation. Bruce was noted for having a similar stature to the man seen in the Delphi video, and also wore similar clothes during his St. Louis crime as the man in the video Libby and Abby took. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. Investigators have long suspected that this man is the girls killer and have praised the girls for documenting the video as evidence. Also his personality is nothing like Scott Alexander, some sock who is claiming to be LK on Facebook groups. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. There's a lot going on here for me to try to figure out. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. I am going to bet dollars to donuts there will be a person arrested February 13th, 2022. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. So Id just as soon stop looking at him as a suspect. Thomas Bruce, a former pastor, was charged with fatally shooting one woman and sexually assaulting two others at aCatholic Supply store in St. Louis, Missouri, in November 2018. The Reddit sites are pretty useless too, mostly because most posters regard the best sources on this crime as false. High Robert, However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. He could offend today in say, Ohio and offend in Illinois and be in his journey back home to commit more offenses. to find the killer or team of killers. Expelled From Law School, Dad Convicted of Mom & Brothers Murder. I find your blog very interesting. May have worked at Tyson Foods slaughterhouse in Logansport, Indiana and sister facility in Waterloo, Iowa in 2011-2012. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. On the day the girls went missing, Libby had posted photos on Snapchat of her and Abby walking along the trail. According to video recovered from one of the victim's phones, Abby or Libby mentioned "gun" as a man approached them, the probable cause affidavit said. The fact that I believe LE has been busy trying to cover up the mistakes they made early on leads me to believe that they inadvertently helped BG get away with this horrendous crime and continue to do so by withholding almost every piece of information possible from the public, while at the same time begging for that one tip they need to make an arrest. Is he into numerology? Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. Im sure his wife Mrs. X knows or suspects what he has done but she wont roll overKeep up the great work and hopefully they get this SOB! Because statistically, the chance that it is a crazy serial killer would be smaller. You can tell by many things gait, body shape, manner of walking, voice, etc. Though she cannot comment on this investigation since its ongoing, she MAY be able to offer clues. Allen was arrested on Friday in connection to the murders - the first big break in the case. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. Im a real nice guy, I treat my commenters well, and Im basically this mild-mannered, unassuming, intellectual, professor type. Article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704. The manner of death has never been revealed. Empiricism is a thing. I wonder how they made sure everyone on that team stayed tight lipped, especially after all of this time. Cause of death of one girl was a deep cut to the throat. All I ask is that you say that our suspect is named Mr. X, and we absolutely refuse to identify this man. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. If it was an adult male, that changes things considerably. He can be heard saying, "Guys, down the hill," in the short video and investigators created two composite sketches based on this evidence. He stopped for gas and cigarettes. "Why would the police withhold [the cause of death]? How do they know he sent audio/video to one of the girls phones? Relationship with older daughter and stepson: Unknown. They have their own sources. That makes no sense anyways, kill 2 little girls because of a "grudge",theoretically speaking. Apparently neither girl was a virgin and both girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex. The two dates - 2/13/2017 & 2/13/2012 are the same in numerology (16): 2+1+3+2+0+1+7 = 16 and 7+1+3/+2+0+1+2 = 16. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. You might consider joining us in our private group. Is Mr X part of any of the local groups working on promoting the trail system? LE blew off their concerns and called off the search, citing safety concerns for the searchers but seemingly had little of the same concerns for the missing teens who could have been severely hurt and unable to help themselves, just waiting for someone in LE to find them that night. Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. Some people are very insistent that Ron Logan is the killer. Im not sure about that, but its an interesting idea! Delphi eighth-graders Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were killed on Feb. 13, 2017 while walking on a local hiking trail. There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. Here's the Update in His Case. Because it doesnt matter whether I think hes guilty or not. I dont know if the bridge was within eyeshot of the spot where the girls were found. Also stated that Abby survived the initial attack and she crawled towards Libby. What are those supposed Delphi Murders leaked text messages about? The bodies were found on property belonging to Ronald Logan. 7) Hes local. It's a strange case. And sickeningly, the murderer 'staged' the girls' bodies in a particular way after killing them, although it remains unclear exactly how he did this. Also how about this? This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. The manner of death has never been revealed. However, this early searching meant that he could use his lost my keys excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evenings search. We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. He was 18 in 1984, so we figured he graduated that year, but maybe he graduated in 1986 when he was 20. I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. The rest are guardians. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. I dont get it. Cookie Notice He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. Sometimes there are deliberate injuries to the mouth, including bullet wounds, as a sign that someone "talked.". They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, its awfully thin. Are you speculating? I actually had written a letter to law enforcement that I failed to send, of which I was reading from. "No, that's not her nor Libby," he wrote in his text response. "When asked about the unspent bullet, [Allen] did not have an explanation of why the bullet was found between" the girls' bodies, the probable cause affidavit said. What are they doing to move this forward? The family knew something was wrong. So Mr. X did not ask him to search for his keys, he was officially asking to search for the girls according to ol Ronny boy. jeffreydumber. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors - mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10.